Beyonder was stated to be MILLIONS of times more powerful than THE MULTI-VERSE(at the time equal to OMNI-VERSE) COMBINED. Forum Posts. Beyonder would laugh and blink it out of existence. Reviews: 1. EDIT: About Beyonder being gullible and "getting his power's stolen". Reviews: 4. This is pre-retcon Beyonder. Followers. lannfear. PR Beyonder was TOAA in the beyond realm. The Beyonder is a young member of the ancient race of multiversal engineers known as The Beyonders, and by far its most infamous and well-known one. He was stated to be millions of times more powerful than the entire marvel multiverse. Gen. The Crimson King decides he's bored and decides to start trolling other verses. 0. Living Tribunal. What we know about Mark Miller's Marvel 1985 is that. 3 years ago. And of course the LT himself. ReplyOkay so i want to go to war with the JLA and I'd like to build a team from Viners to do so. 0. After his creator, Jim Shooter left Marvel, writer-editor Tom DeFalco, displeased with. Beyonder was the one above all before TOAAPre-Retcon Beyonder kills Thanos no matter what the circumstances are. Kami Tenchi by many (not me though) is considered a Multiversal God. In the Presence's case, Perpetua can create and destroy multiverses, The Judges are above her and the Presence is above them both. MJJ is top 5 in Marvel for reality warping, but he has very limited actual feats, but its. @Pr_Beyonder: Yes. @majestic99. "You'll notice every cosmic being/entity in there, from the LT to Eternity. "@Decoy Elite: sorry for bumping this thread but I needed to reply to. Basically this. 2. Follow 15044. If TOAA comes to DC and try to challenge The Presence , TOAA will lose since he won't be omnipotent anymore. 2. Molecule man, PR beyonder, post retcon beyonders, oblivion, one below all and many many more. The Crimson King from The Dark Tower fights The Pre-Retcon Beyonder from Marvel. Forums. Posted by u/galactusisathiccboi - 4 votes and 14 commentsLol at Battler stronger than PR Beyonder. If Iron Man can. PR Beyonder and the Beyonders fall into that category too, and you’ve claimed the former is “fodder”. He is talking about TOAA, not PR Beyonder. 3rd. This is the battle of the greatest Feat :)483K subscribers in the whowouldwin community. Post-Retcon Beyonder on the other hand is only a Cube Being, so is much weaker. The Living Tribunal's domain is the multiverse he's from, the Beyonder is the entire surrounding Beyond personified. Beyonder has curb-stomped Celestials and even killed Death, a thing that was so irreversible that not even the most powerful of beings could fix it, besides himself. 11,059. 0. Also you asked who in Marvel is more powerful than PR Beyonder, so there's no. This puts Beyonder at LT+ with MM a close second, followed by the Beyonders and HOTU. While still a child, the older Beyonders began their grand experiment where they. Beyonder would laugh and blink it out of existence. TOAA is above Thanos with the HOTU, a writer is> the written character. The Beyonder is strong, but not exactly the strongest. Mxy still bitches every Darkseid save for Infinite Frontier since we don’t know yet. The man with the blue privates exists only b/c the man from beyond allows him to. His weakness is a lack of understanding of. m outperformed beyonder,, And in Alan Moore’s watchmen, dr. But if you are ONLY going FEATS wise, then Classic Beyonder takes it. #12 Edited By Montaq. 2. As well as being compared to Pre Crisis Spectre, who dwarfs Odin, to Galactus and classic Exitar levels. The Beginners Guide To Comics: Come Join The Discord: Beyonder was somehow tricked by dr doom and lost his power which is dumb tbh. #12 Edited By Pr_Beyonder @Crom-Cruach: Don't forget the regenerator G1 cell that allows Godzilla to regrow any amount of damage as long as he has regenerator cell present in his body,allowing him. Just because that occurred, does not mean Pre-Retcon Beyonder's "im ominoptent" statement holds any weight. The beyond realm was also so large in size it made the marvel multiverse look like a droplet of water while the beyond realm was the ocean. But tbh I think Lucifer is just a smarter fighter. Build Your Own Omnitrix. The Beyonder is a cosmic entity of immense power. Follow 8935. 7. He was much, much stronger than fundamental forces of the universe such as Galactus, Entropy, Eternity, etc. The art work and what not is horrible. Originally posted by Air Legend Beyonder in a curbstomp. Nobody in Marvel or DC aside from the Primal Monitor (DC) or TOAA (Marvel) have the slightest chance against PR Beyonder. They have been - however, the influence of the Phoenix now extends to the realm of the Beyonders, which is the same realm where the Beyonder from the 80s is from. ". This topic is locked from further discussion. The Presence. -5. Put MM on the other team and the result is the same. That feat alone puts him solidly above Lucifer who's best "multiversal" feat was destroying the mirrors, which he didn't even do by himself. 8 years ago. Beyonder easily. 6 years ago. Air Legend. Follow 75. A universe that is more powerful. Manhattan's league. ago. Perfect teamwork. He was not aware of other Beyonders and misinterpreted his personal universe as everything in existence. The Crimson King decides he's bored and decides to start trolling other verses. Pr beyonder blinks away a nigh omni that treat beings that treat beings that treat beings that are multiversal++ level like an outright folder right? She basically controls the plot of her verse. His power was millions of times greater than all of Marvel combined. Aside from them, PR-Beyonder is the strongest being in marvel. The difference between that portrayal and what Pre-Crisis Superman was capable of is most likely over a dozen orders of magnitude greater than the one between an amoeba and Pre-Crisis Superman. Primal monitor has done zilch, but its implied that he was similar to PR beyonder. vs Arioch vs Dormammu Rules: Round 1:Winner by death, surrender, capture, Random encounter. The Living Tribunal was able to stop the Infinity Gaunlet from working, while PR Molecule Man stated to be stronger than all other beings in the Multiverse, Including Abstracts, and the Living Tribunal . 9 years ago. Their mere Taikyoku trashes on both Molecule man and PR Beyonder. m limits were never exposed. The Beyonder (/ b i ˈ ɒ n d ər /) is a fictional cosmic entity appearing in American comic books published by Marvel Comics. And,DC cosmology is encompassed by the story of Superman CAS embodies. I do not believe he was omniscient and that is a big difference. Round 3: Both team up to take on Galactus and Eternity. Deku remembers All Might then poof PRB is knocked out. Beyonder wins against Manhattan. Actually i think you have a misconception of the timelines buddy that or your hating on the Marquis of death. Jul 30, 2018. Holo-Man • 3 yr. Doom. #44 Edited By Debunker020202. 13 votes, 12 comments. 9 years ago. Pre-Retcon Beyonder is more powerful than the Living Tribunal. 1344. ultimatewarrior123. Discussion; Bug Reporting; Delete/Combine Pages@Pr_Beyonder said: " Remember Beyonder's omniscient so. PR Beyonder learns about his future self in Marvel (being a jobber) and is pissed off. also i've read that suggsverse is basically a troll comic. PR beyonder. @traskindustries: He reminds me of Beyonder because of his pictures, not because. Both strike an ambiguous pose when it comes to creating a universe. Yeah, but PR Beyonder had LT shaking in his wee booties. Mxyzptlk. Friend showed me a comic on this guy about a year ago,told me it was a very popular fan- fic,I was orginally going to make this my first thread but IPre Retcon Beyonder. Neither is the fact that PR Beyonder was millions of times more powerful than everything in the entirety of the multiverse. . Marvel TeamPR Beyonder & PR Molecule Man & Oblivion & Beyonders (entire Race) & Thanos & Galactus (composite) & Abstract Ent PR Beyonder:Loved the feeling of not being omnipotent and deciced I'll spare yall. Forum Posts. PR Beyonder. PR Beyonder's power was likened to an ocean while the Marvel Universe was said to be a drop of water in comparison. 14 years ago. 2 years ago. PR-Beyonder was implied to be more powerful than the Living Tribunal, while Mxy was depowered by the Spectre, and Spectre has beaten other 5D imps before. Knowsbleed33 says: "PR Beyonder took out a group of Celestials with ease. He could quite literally blink Dr Manhattan out of existence. PR Beyonder shrugged of a shot that "would have slagged a few million entire dimensions" fired by the only other dude would could have leveled such a thing (PR Molecule Man). Forum Posts. " @Silver2467 said: "The two fought before. I’m goin wit Batman. she is not omnipotent, but PR beyonder and TOAA are, and PR beyonder is at LT level, which means TOAA wins. To make it a shorter list, Beyonder's presence threatens the whole of the Marvel multiverse, and he sweeps aside the Living Tribunal, Galactus, Doom; everything in it basically. RULES:Morals off. Follow 7842. 10 years ago. #23 Edited By MrDirector786. PR Beyonder was above all beings in marvel. not_anakin. Reviews. Protege wouldn't have been able to copy Beyonder's powers unless he allowed it. Further to that; Odin, Galactus and, especially Beyonder, are all. Dr Manhattan has the power to control matter as well as subatomic perception and control. The biggest parallel would be the Beyonder, IMO (or possibly the Beyonders). Lucifer is also technically the most intelligent being in DC besides God. If Doom goes at full confidence in. The One Above All. If that's true, the Presence would be way weaker then PR Beyonder. Win by death, KO, incap. He. Pre-retcon beyonder 1 on 1. Marvel - Living Tribunal, PR- MM and Beyonder, HoTU MAYBE DC-Fully Powered Spectre, CA Superman, Mandrakk, Nix Uotan Marvel- Multi-Eternity? I don't know a lot about Marvel cosmics. The Beyonder is a young member of the ancient race of multiversal engineers known as The Beyonders, and by far its most infamous and well-known one. 0. Forum Posts. Nah, it’s generally recognised that PR Beyonder is above TOAA and the Presence. Beyonder would just make remake everything that was destroyed. Retconned/Modern Beyonder < Ivory Kings. The Beyonder: Who Wins In A Fight? By David Harth Published Sep 11, 2020 The Beyonder and Dr. 11 years ago. he would get tricked out of his powers without having a sure fire way of getting them back like he did with Dr. Round 1: No prep time. Im suprised that PR Beyonder isnt here. PR Beyonder is more powerful than Marvels TOAA(who was defeated by Thanos with an Astral Regulator). This is Beyonders not the famous PR Beyonder. u/nullfather can attest to that. Victory by permanent death or erasure. PR Beyonder (Marvel) Takes A DC Gauntlet. Because PR Beyonder was a multiverse personified, so does that mean that each of these new Beyonders are also their own Multiverse? No. There's a LOT of weird hax in Bleach, not even including Aizen. To make it a shorter list, Beyonder's presence threatens the whole of the Marvel multiverse, and he sweeps aside the Living Tribunal, Galactus, Doom; everything in it basically. The thought of Beyonder defeating SCP 3812 because he was able to destroy a billion universes is laughable. The beyonder should be able to Reply CyberpunkV2077 • Additional comment actions. Beyonder was either just omnipotent or the closest to it that anyone has gotten without being it. As for Wanda feats she reformed the multiverse (not omniverse, just the way it was used here) and ALSO stopped/controlled/dispersed. i don,t have a pics but i do no some facts that are apparent: 1 the phoenix force has on. PR Beyonder was the most powerful entity sans TOAA in the marvel multiverse for a time, he was pretty much able to do whatever the hell he wanted, telling The Living Tribunal to fuck off included. Followers. this may get ugly,good match up imo though. And the beyonders are destroying the entire Multiverse with no opposition,so they have no equal either. The Beyonder can take on Galactus and Superman isn't as strong and he would lose. PR Beyonder is literally beyond the abilities of all things within the Marvel-verse combined. Battle has been done so many damn times. Wiki Points. Reviews. Round 2: Thanos has 1 year. When picturing PR Beyonder's power I always use this analogy: Imagine the PR Amalgan Brothers, you know, the guys that made LT and Specter look like ants. So who wins this epic clash to end all clashes? Pre-Retcon Beyonder vs Thanos w/ Infinity Gauntlet. " @Pr_Beyonder: LT could very well beat Lucifer. Round 3 and 4: Same as round 1 and 2 without Infinity Gaunlet or Heart of the Universe. %Pr "this is not pre-con beyonder, it's cosmic cube being beyonder and a full power PF would be white crown who both these people can't beat 14 years ago. PR Beyonder is millions of times stronger than the Marvel multiverse. PR-Beyonder easily, He was (literally) the multiverse outside of marvel, the beyond realm, everything was him and he was everything basically. PR Beyonder was implied to be another TOAA from a different multi/macroverse. This is way larger than the entire Marvel verse and DC verse. I don't know what handbook that text appeared in trying to retcon a retcon, but canonically, beyonders are responsible for the. The biggest parallel would be the Beyonder, IMO (or possibly the Beyonders). And by feats Beyonder would totally curbstomp Glory. No chance of being omnipotent. also i've read that suggsverse is basically a troll comic. He was a way wanked character. The character plays a more antagonistic role in the 1985 sequel, Secret Wars II, in which he takes human form to learn about desire but threatens to destroy the multiverse out of increasing frustration. And the LT he beat was undefined. Since this is PR Beyonder he might win, but the whole point of The Endless is that the three most powerful ones are way up there, and all of them combined have the same power level as the Presence. The guy could probably trick PR Beyonder into. Dr Manhattan is a very proficient matter-energy manipulator. Here, Alden and Neon fall out of Nil after dying and land in the 6th. Beyonder solos. PR Beyonder existed before all things in existence he was. Weakest character that would beat him for a majority is PR Beyonder. And matched Mxy at one point. Apr 2014. Hard to call in terms of power. level 2 · 1y. See moreJoin this channel to get access to perks:…PR Beyonder was millions of times powerful than the entire Marvel Multiverse. 1. 13 years ago. There's a few tossups though, I think the Bleach verse has the speed and skill to pull out a win here or there. @kingant27 said:. And how do we know PR Beyonder could blink LT out of existence, he could blink lady death out of. I haven't been keeping up, but that sounds interesting. "GL Kilowog >Odin Thor? "Perhaps not in sheer power, but in implementation. Take the hill. So adding that power to the PR Beyonder powered Victor vs IG and CC Thanos makes this a stomp is Dooms favor in my opinion. Yeah, and apparently PR Beyonder was a young version of the Beyonders in the prompt. Thus he is more more powerful than Fulcrum who may or may not be. Follow 10594. Pre-ret Beyonder was not god, and he was not TOAA. This topic is locked from further discussion. #23 Edited By MrDirector786. [deleted]@Pr_Beyonder said: " can't seem to edit my post anyway Pre-Retcon Beyonder and Spectre vs Storm and Batman is probably the biggest spite Hate to hate on bugs bunny but i've seen 5-D imps do. edit3: There is one mutant whose ability is retcon. ago. Yeah PR Beyonder is completely broken Reply [deleted] • Additional comment actions. Created by writer Jim Shooter and artist Mike Zeck, the Beyonder first appeared in Secret Wars #1 (May 1984) as an unseen, nigh-omnipotent being from outside the multiverse who kidnapped the heroes and villains of the Marvel. No. Doctor Manhattan is one of the most formidable beings around but his powers are all based on what it is possible. He tanks an attack that would destroy several billion dimensions like nothing from PR Molecule. However, that scan of her being able to have an effect on PR Beyonder was pretty badass. The BeyondersVS. PR-Beyonder easily, He was (literally) the multiverse outside of marvel, the beyond realm, everything was him and he was everything basically. Manhattan's league. It would also destroy the. Exists alongside all of Heaven in Creation inside of the story. Post-Retcon Beyonder, Pre-Retcon Molecule Man and Unbound Spectre. The thing is , Beyonder shrugged off a blast that "would have destroyed 1 million dimensions". One on one, most people would say that PR. TR was created by this. Fight takes place in an infinite dimension. Yes. The Two fight in the beyond realm. Report Save. HOTU Thanos. Lucifer WINS. 313. None of them have ever specifically resisted speed force speed stealing. Standard equipment. elaine ftw. The one who shines like Gold upon the Sea of Chaos can beat Cosmic Armor Superman. Posts. ) The main issue here would be whether Beyonder. Although the Beyonder was retconned to a Cosmic Cube, he was retconned again into an Inhuman-Mutant, thus he lacks the feats. He killed Death for fun which still left LT powerless. Beyonder could honestly lose to any of the 3,but has the best chance of beating the Gentry at least 7/10. 0. I don't think Living Tribunal was there, neither was oblivion. Mad Jim Jaspers Vs. . Bait? 1 year ago. So yeah PR Beyonder would stomp Lucifer. I just think with 15 minutes, they can pull something off. also the living tribunal couldnt even do anything to PR beyonder. And Secret Wars Beyonder would annihilate all versions. unicron didnt live threw the big bang he slept threw the omniversarall big bang beyonder took over the multiver/omniverse,unicron ate it/absubed it. Hulk tanking a hit from Beyonder is an outlier too by the way. unicron wins and heres why. So by definition, above any DC character except the equivalent of TOAA (The Presence. Mate living tribunal has killed the beyonder. m99. Follow 16064. PR Beyonder was TOAA before TOAA was ever a thought. PR beyonder can call upon the other beyonders as well to help if he needs it. His will is law. Round 2: CAS VS PR Beyonder with Living Tribunal. Just no. Follow 88. Lucifer's power is stated to be infinit, and he is virtually omnipotent. Morals off. #1 quandaledingle. PR Beyonder stomps this team. Like, guys, just focus on like a planetary thing or even a system wide thing. ShootingNova. dope matchup. He looks cooler, and has a cooler name. Pre Retcon Beyonder has been nearly killed before by lesser being and has been outsmarted more than once by people so far below his power level. Living Tribunal was also onlu second to TOAA much like Michael and Lucifer are second only to Presence. PR Beyonder existed before all things in existence he was. Okay I've got a theory, you're either a bot or a really young kid who's interested in Battleboarding and is just throwing random characters out to see what's happening. Round 3: CAS and Myx vs PR Beyonder and Living Tribunal. That would make LT like a germ/bug in comparison to PR-Beyonder. Composite Spidey is powerful but gets pushed aside first I’d say, even wit the powers of the Beyonder race. Win by death, KO, incap PR beyonder's own assession puts him millions of times stronger than the multiverse. So yeah PR Beyonder would stomp Lucifer. Gen. Manhattan has never shown any feats to even suggest him being at Beyonder's level. 9 years ago. Oh so she was the woman people talked about when they say "Beyonder can't be defeated except by that girl who he. Actually PR Beyonder was TOAA of his own actuality (according to Stan Lee), the purpose of his original existence was to. While secret wars came out in 1984 it extended to 1985 which i believe was when Molecule man made his secret wars appearance. 801. ago. My gut is Monarch?Stomp. This topic is locked from further discussion. Victory by permanent death or erasure. deactivated-5d755a684b00b. Pre-retcon beyonder 1 on 1. Follow 8649. Merely has ultimate molecular control. PR Beyonder > Ivory Kings. Followers. PR Beyonder - rendered 3 dimensional and was upset by it and confused by it once he left his Beyond realm and entered Marvels multiverse. He is bigger than the multiverse, which is infinite in size. This isn't a battle,Its an execution. There are like at least dozens DC. Iirc HotU isn’t allowed in battles given the type of power it is. also, according to the bible, he can be killed, as the incarnation of Jesus, with a few spear pokes and soem crucifiction. PR Beyonder was stated clearly to be omnipotent in almost every issue of Secret Wars 1 & 2, so you can't deny. The beyonders were stated to be bound by linear time. 13 years. He is bigger than the multiverse, which is infinite in size. So Beyonder casually stomping and being above people who casually stomp multiversal beings, is a massive step up. One Above All (Stan Lee) Fulcrum (Jack Kirby) Living Tribunal. Elaine seems to stomp everyone else, but can she defeat PR Beyonder? Nihilist. When picturing PR Beyonder's power I always use this analogy: Imagine the PR Amalgan Brothers, you know, the guys that made LT and Specter look like ants. 0. Followers. Follow 6024. Beyonder is the bigger god. A fraction is still much more power than basic reality warping. TOAA is above all. Darkseid depends, but i think a hakai would destroy an avatar. There's a few tossups though, I think the Bleach verse has the speed and skill to pull out a win here or there. Silver Age Superman doesn't have universe+ feats which the Cosmic Cube Beyonder had and PR Beyonder was beyond multiverse+ level. Round 3: CAS and Myx vs PR Beyonder and Living Tribunal. [deleted]Join Date. Posts. I think you could argue rather convincingly that he's the 2nd moat powerful character in all of fiction, only behind TOAA.